"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone)
06/10/2014 at 13:04 • Filed to: None
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"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone)
06/10/2014 at 13:04 • Filed to: None | 1
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!!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! reports that the Germans and the Japanese are working on a SECOND pair of sports cars with the following specs.:
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- lightweight body
- 3 liter inline six
- 150hp hybrid system
- MR configuration
- around $100.000 price tag
Also, Car magazine seems like a reliable source, they told us about !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , almost a year before the official announcement.
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Mattbob
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06/10/2014 at 13:07 |
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3 liter inline six..... made by a collaboration of bmw and toyota. I don't see how this couldn't be awesome.
BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
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06/10/2014 at 13:07 |
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Inline 6 and mid-engined-rear-drive layout?
Transverse, or I highly doubt it. A double-displacement re-design of the BMW K1600GT engine with a transaxle slung behind the center of the crankcase like half of a Miura V12...
But longitudinal... like an M1... that is a long drivetrain, necessitating a long wheelbase and small cabin.
And I think I won't hold my breath for project 2, until the first product is actually announced and on the market.
EL_ULY
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06/10/2014 at 13:08 |
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yes please :]
Maximum_Odyssey
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
06/10/2014 at 13:12 |
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I was almost liking this until I saw the price tag. CP.
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> Maximum_Odyssey
06/10/2014 at 13:17 |
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Speed(and carbon fiber) costs money, a lot of money.
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> BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
06/10/2014 at 13:27 |
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Some of the world's best engineers will be on this car, I'm sure they will pick the best solution.
spanfucker retire bitch
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06/10/2014 at 13:38 |
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Lexus, either make a new LFA with an even better sounding V10 with performance that can actually beat a GT-R, or fuck off.
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> EL_ULY
06/10/2014 at 13:39 |
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Pretty sure you would lick every inch of that car.
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> Mattbob
06/10/2014 at 13:42 |
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If this guy gets to design it.
Rico
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06/10/2014 at 13:53 |
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Hmm $100,000 Toyota Supra, fascinating.
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BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
06/10/2014 at 16:46 |
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I'm sure they'll try to pick the best solution left to them by BMW and Toyota's redundant armies of bean-counters.
Ask Porsche about M96 engine reliability after Toyota's consultation on modernizing Porsche's production processes in the late 1990s.
I am not sure why the two companies that are competitors, are collaborating on this... BMW and Lexus are direct competitors.
And Lexus doesn't even use inline-6 engines anymore... and 2JZ-GE and -GTE were great ones... there is no 3JZ.
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> BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
06/10/2014 at 19:24 |
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To save costs in areas people don't really care about, and put that money in places people do care about. Like advanced materials and hybrid system and interior and exterior design. And since they will have different designs, and I mean different, not like the Toyobaru thing, it will matter less that they are competitors. Infiniti and Mercedes are doing the same, they worked on the Q50 and C-Class together and Mercedes is developing the Q30 for Infiniti, on a Daimler platform.
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BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
06/11/2014 at 01:39 |
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Are you claiming that BMW (remember Bangle? his ripples are still going...) or Toyota/Lexus are either strong on exterior design? Both used to be... but haven't been for quite some time now.
Do you recall the panel fitments and general mess that the LF-A was for a boat-load of money? Sure, the material engineering was advanced, but that doesn't forgive bad design.
Have you looked at the RC's proportions, lines, and panel seams?
BMW 2 is better than 1 coupe was... but that is a low bar to clear. Almost all of their new cars are blandly proportioned, and simultaneously over-styled with inconsequential details and over-complicated fascias, redundant body styles with ridiculous violation of the naming scheme, and excessive weight for the given dimensions.
Mercedes Benz is bland as ever, and Infiniti is down-right crazy, like the rest of Nissan is becoming, also... and makes BMW's even coupe/non-coupe, odd-sedan naming scheme seem sane. Keep in mind, decision makers also decided to call every Infiniti model "Q".
GM proves that saving costs in ways that people might not immediately be aware of, have a bad way of coming back to bite them... and killed a few of their customers, so I don't trust ANY of them not to cut corners, even if most corners aren't as drastic as that.
Pardon me if I keep my reservations. I don't ascribe an abundance of infallibility to people I don't know, just because they are employed in the automotive industry. People are still people, and still make bad choices.
philipilihp
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06/12/2014 at 15:05 |
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I approve of this, even though I was extremely skeptical about a Toyota/BMW partnership.